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Life on the Outside

May 22, 2020

In this episode, hosts Kenneth Hartman and Lucy Copp share the space and pass the mic to Alia Hartman, Ken's daughter. Her perspective of LWOP is that of a daughter who grew up visiting her father in prison visiting rooms across the state of California. Now that her father is home, Alia is navigating new territory...


May 1, 2020

Upon Daniel's release from prison he felt numb. What was he supposed to feel? Joy? Overwhelming gratitude that so many others feel? Or perhaps he'd have the sensory experience of a child setting foot in Disney World for the first time? But it was all absent for Daniel. As his reentry unfolded, Daniel struggled to find...